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Title: Favorite Hellenic Military Magazine


digenis - July 25, 2005 07:35 PM (GMT)
I always wanted to ask, and since a discussion brough it up...
Please feel free to ask me to add any magazine I missed.

mavrogenides - July 25, 2005 07:45 PM (GMT)
Strategiki is better...it seems that these guys have the "better friends" in the greek armed forces....

Ptisi is also a good magazine allthough they write sometimes some BS....


cameleon1975 - July 25, 2005 09:18 PM (GMT)
I voted for Ptisi although i haven't bought any of these magazines for a long time now.i guess that i like Ptisi more because it has also many articles on Space and other scientific matters.

Is Kabathas still head editor?

ChrisCRTS - July 26, 2005 10:56 AM (GMT)
Even i didn't buy them for long time now (fucking Germany :angry: ) i Vote for Amyntika. Ptisis comes second just because of the space articels.

cameleon1975 - July 26, 2005 11:05 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (ChrisCRTS @ Jul 26 2005, 12:56 PM)
Ptisis comes second just because of the space articels.

Actually thats why i prefer Ptisi over the other magazines! :lol:

chris450 - July 27, 2005 07:24 AM (GMT)
i think Stratigiki is the most reliable of all,and covers all possible GT defence related matters.if someones goal is to be informed on the current GT defence
balance i think strategy is the best choice..

oh and it has great diplomacy articles too,by people like Periclis Nearxou..

DouriosYpnos - July 27, 2005 10:24 AM (GMT)
"Stratigiki" is the most reliable and accurate.. the less biased too...
"Amyntika Themata" appear to have become better in the past few months but still are not like Stratigiki..

digenis - July 27, 2005 02:12 PM (GMT)
Dourie,

I couldn't agree more with you! "Amyntika Themata" has become an excellent magazine, although I still prefer "Stratigiki" (even if I buy both).

"Ptisi" is a great magazine, although they (obviously) focus too much on aviation (including commercial and general) and space. I still have all the issues from the 1980's and early 90's (in mint condition but in storage), and plan on keeping them forever.

Nutuk - July 27, 2005 03:06 PM (GMT)
I am envying you guys, Greece has 6 military magazines?????

f***, there are only two military magazines left in Turkey
1 Savunma ve havacilik
2 Turkish defence


What happened to the magazines like MI5 and Ulusal strategi does anyone know?

digenis - July 27, 2005 03:23 PM (GMT)
Nutuk,

There are more magazines than the six listed, although I don't have access to them in New York. Since I do not know their current publication status, I did not add them to the poll.

ChrisCRTS - July 27, 2005 03:41 PM (GMT)
:bawl: I live in Germany and i don't have access to them! :bawl:

Pytheas - July 28, 2005 05:26 PM (GMT)
For me the best is a new one, the "Anachaitisi" (=Interception)...

It's published for a couple of months and it has amazed me... I'll suscribe to it definately.

"Cockpit" has stopped been out cause noone was buying it...

"Stratigiki" and "amyntika themata" (and previously "cockpit") are published by the same editions and editors...



From the list I chose the Ptisi, as the most unbiased... Stratigiki is a fucken F-16 and American biased...


From what I can recall, you forgot "Amyntiki Epitheorisi" that is also a relatively new magazine... And I think there other also that I can't bring back in my memory...

digenis - July 28, 2005 05:27 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ChrisCRTS @ Jul 27 2005, 10:41 AM)
:bawl: I live in Germany and i don't have access to them! :bawl:

Don't cry Chris, at least you are saving money. In New York they change $13 per issue, and I buy at least 2 per month (Stratigiki and Amyntika Themata). The cover price is 5.50 Euros, so that is some markup! :pirate:

DouriosYpnos - July 29, 2005 06:42 AM (GMT)
QUOTE
"Stratigiki" and "amyntika themata" (and previously "cockpit") are published by the same editions and editors...



I don't think that this is correct pytheas.. "Stratigiki" and "Cockpit" were from the same publisher.. but "Amyntika Themata" was not.. i don't know if this status changed latetly though... i will check it but i find it difficult to be from the same publisher.. both mags are high volume and with more or less the same content, one publisher would merge them somehow... they are competative to one another..

Stratigiki also is not pro-US.. actually is the only mag that gives value to Russian systems and promotes them...

Isn't "Anaxetisi" focused mainly on Air Force issues? Does it worth buying?

orko_8 - July 31, 2005 09:15 PM (GMT)
Nutuk,

There currently two defense related magazines in Turkey: Savunma ve Havacilik (Defense & Aerospace) and Military Science & Technology. There are also some other magazines such as Kara Havacilik but they are internal publications of TSK. You can also count Teknolojik Guvenlik, focused on civil and para-military security forces and systems (from Monch Turkiye publishing, the group which publishes Savunma ve Havacilik). Monch Turkiye also publishes a monthly bulletin named "Turkish Defense and Aerospace Update" which covers latest developments in Turkish defense industry and insight analyzes. It is not sold in stores, and its subscription price is extremely high for amateurs. Its customer profile is defense companies and governmental & military institutions.

Turkish Defence had ended a long time ago. There are two published issues, only one made it to the stores. It continues its life with its renowned forum site.

M5 Strateji, which was one of the longest running defence - strategy magazines of Turkey had ended. The editor team founded MSI magazine. I used to like its issues in mid 90's. They were cooperating with Jane's and published a lot of valuable articles from Jane's publications.

There are rumors that Ucanturk is still being published and can be freely obtained from Turk Hava Kurumu offices. But I'm not sure. I have last seen it in the summer of 2002.

Ulusal Strateji (National Strategy) was a publication of CNR company, which organized IDEF Defence and Aerospace Exhibition. Last year CNR lost the organizaton bid to Tuyap Organization Company, so it became meaningless for them to publish a defense magazine (no advertisement revenues = no more issues).

Saturn5 - August 1, 2005 10:13 AM (GMT)
Well, my favourite Greek Military Magazine is definetly Amyntiki Epitheorisi.

Why?

Because only this maganize did published a photo that I have taken. The editors did not asked me for a permission but never the less if the prefer my photos to other photos this shows that they have taste. :lol:

Here is the photo of page 25 of the last edition of Amyntiki Epitheorisi maganize.

user posted image


And here is the proof that the photo does not belong to the magazine.

http://www.globaldefence.net/deutsch/euras...tuerkei/see.htm

The Stratigiki maganize seems to be also a good one.

Ptisi is too much airborne for my taste but it has a class too. It reminded me of similiar British publications. The Afganistan special insert of the latest Ptisi was very interesting for me.

modus - August 1, 2005 10:23 AM (GMT)
I personally prefer Stratigiki, because of its wider coverage. But as a whole Greek Defence reviews are above average in terms of not limiting themselves solely to Greek defense procurements, but also providing a lot of info to enthusiasts, which we severely lack here. In Turkey such magazines are mostly directed to a target audience of decision makers and professionals. As the photos of the publishers -e.g. in Stratigiki- imply these people are more enthusiasts than brokers. ;)

By the way, the newspaper/review seller at Samos still do not understand the rocket speed increase in Greek defence review sales. :)

KonTim - August 2, 2005 10:03 PM (GMT)
Guys i think that here in Greece we have the luck to have some very good defence magazines.Me personally i'm a "Stratigiki" fan but i have to admit that magazines like "Amyntiki Epitheorisi" and "Amyntika Themata" are also keeping their thematology to great standards."Amyntiki Epitheorisi" has been created after the decision of "Periskopio" publishing to united the "Sygxronos Stratos" and "Sygroni Aeroporia and Nautiko" magazines."Ptisi" magazine has lost much of its prestige the last few years.Also "Diplomatia" magazine has enriched its publishing with the addoption of "Geopolitiki" magazine.As far as it concerns specific journalists i think that "Stratigiki" has the prime position due to its excellent publishing-team.

GREEK-AIRBORNE - August 3, 2005 10:33 PM (GMT)
In my opinion we can not compare all off them. I mean the "Ptisi" and the "Cockpit" are specialize in the Airforce. The "Peripolos" Specialize in the Special Forces, So we have "Stratigiki" , "Amyntika Themata" and "Amyna kai Diplomatia to compare cause they have a larger aspect of topics. I buy the Stratigiki and the Amyntika themata every month and occasionaly i by the others magazine if they are dealing with an interesting topic. I Thing Stratigiki is better, and especially the Amintiki Vivlos which is released once a year is a must about Greece and Turkey defence! I alsow noticed that Amintika Themata are very good lately with nice Historical themes!




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